@mikehow This sounds like a good plan. Gallstones blocking the bile ducts causes a gallstone attack. The performing surgeon has to be retired or passed. Christine has a copy of my book Fatty Liver: You Can Reverse It and she has been following the plan in that book for the last 6 months. A complete blockage can cause an infection. I have pain in the area and nausea, should I be concerned? Some people who have had their gallbladders removed—a procedure known as a cholecystectomy—find themselves dealing with ongoing digestive problems. before you jump to conclusions, i do NOT have a gallbladder, it was removed in Aug. 07. i am having pains exactly like a gallbladder attack,i went to the doctor yesterday and he gave me some pain medicine, which is not working, so i called him today, i was wondering what else could be causing me such pain. Chicago Bears Q&A: Why not go all-in on a rebuild? This is known as the Post-Cholecystectomy Syndrome. Rosemary, I moved your message to the Digestive Health group, so that you can meet other members talking about similar symptoms. I have experienced many episodes of pain in the same spot that feels exactly like that pain. 6 years ago I had emergency surgery to remove my gallbladder. Patients with this problem tend to have a recurrence of their original pain, or a variation of it, after the gallbladder has been removed surgically. I had some pain during first year, but I learned that those were scar tissues and healing. Well if am correct on when this pain started, then it’s been like maybe 3 or 4 months. Here are the four “S’s” of gallbladder pain after removal: Stones – Sometimes there are still gallstones, or small calcified spots left in the remaining ducts or even in the ducts from the liver that head towards the (now missing) gallbladder. i had gallstones & gallbladder removed two years ago, but i'm getting almost the same pains again above stomach and round to back and full up feeling. Dawn, Liked by Rosemary, Volunteer Mentor, Colleen Young, Connect Director, mikehow. I had my gall bladder out 15 years ago, laparoscopically, and I haven’t ever had pain at the surgery site. He updated blood work showed the Bilirubin increased to 4.0, her AST was 133 and LST 569. Gallbladder scar tissue pain is just one of the many possible sources of discomfort. I am sorry that you are experiencing some harsh pain. Now I'm having pains some severe on my right upper side under my ribs. Mike, I again will point to the phantom pain my surgeon suggested after I had part of my pancreas and spleen removed. My gallbladder was removed four years ago. We have a few past discussions on abdominal scar tissue or adhesions that can cause pain and discomfort; feel free to scroll through the conversations and tag members: recurring abdominal adhesions: http://mayocl.in/2qWRN2R I have a dull nagging pain in my upper right side. @jmacvol, @bettyjo, @renariki, you have also discussed pain from scar tissue in the past; do you have any insight for @mikehow? I’d like to welcome you to Connect as well; I can only imagine how stressful it must have been for you, with having a baby and then gallbladder surgery soon after! Now for the last month the pains are getting more frequent and lasting longer, the pain is so bad I double over … Both conditions cause severe upper right abdominal pain after gallbladder removal which can spread and move as far as your shoulder. A subsequent ultrasound showed her liver has experienced a very mild improvement, but Christine is quite concerned about her health and thats why she wante… Rosemary. All my symptoms were in my upper back R side. Dr. Alashari was formerly with Grand Strand Regional Medical Center … She said our bodies know when an internal organ is missing just as if it were part of a limb. This pain went away for about a month after my gallbladder was removed but gradually came back and now is more painful than ever. My symptoms of gallstones actually started a few years ago. Gallbladder removed 2 years ago. She has had a fatty liver for the last 6 years. Well Mike hope you find all the right answers that you are looking for. Other symptoms that can occur as bloating, Thanks for your reply. ... (Patient) Published: December 27. Rosemary. My docs explained to me as damage to 1 or more small skin nerves, or when a nerve is squeezed by the scar tissue. And thank you for...". I would get this sudden pain, it would intensify and then peak, and finally subside, all within roughly 10 to 15 minutes, very infrequent and unpredictable. At about 0230 I had to take her back due to vomiting., she was admitted. Thank you Janet for answering my question..but I've had my gallbladder out 4 years ago when they took it out it was because of function I had no stones no sludge..I'm still taking the Ppis and I'm doing the apple cider and baking soda to no avail pain is still there.. The cause of the pain is either due to the sphincter of Oddi dysfunction or due to post-surgical adhesions. When we say lifelong, we mean a pain after gallbladder removal that lasts years later after the actual surgery. I had my apendix reomoved over 30 years ago, my gall bladdder was removed almost 10 years ago, and i had a … @mikehow, Hi Mike. I was in the hospital on IV antibiotics for 6 days after the surgery. SOD or sphincter of Oddi Dysfunction can also simulate attacks. I am sorry about your pain. It may presume the crowd of individuals, which suffer from indigestion and pain after gallbladder removal. When the gallbladder is removed, the bile duct is clipped to prevent bile leaks and other complications. Sometimes, feels like it could be a digestive type thing, because my bowels feel almost full, if that makes sense, also when I lay on my stomache sometimes it feels … With my gallbladder I develope Abdominal Adhesions which are bands of scar tissue that form between organs. I did not experience pain following my gall bladder removal, but the surgeon and her team did tell me that “phantom pain” where they removed part of my pancreas would not be an uncommon experience. I had mine out in 1993, 18 months after having a frank breech presentation baby. Other symptoms associated with gallbladder removal that appeared after the gallbladder removal were also noted; These ranged from mild ill defined digestive symptoms to severe attacks of abdominal pain and jaundice, flatulence, gastritis, esophagitis, diarrhea, irritable bowel syndrome, upper abdominal pain (where the gallbladder was), colicky lower-abdomen pain, trouble digesting fats, excessive weight gain (obesity), and in som… In scar tissue pain, which can occur after an operation. Have there been any unusual movements on your part in doing yard work, honey do’s, etc…If so, I would tend to place the blame with scar tissue, but…..there is a reason all of us have not hung out our shingle and gotten a huge malpractice policy. Postcholecystectomy Syndrome is a medical term used to describe the negative digestive symptoms which many people experience after theyve healed from their cholecystectomy procedure. Constantly tired. When the gallbladder is removed, special clips are used to seal the tube that connects the gallbladder to the main bile duct. Has your pain recently developed, or has it been ongoing and gradually increasing? You might Google your question. I think you also might be interested in reviewing this discussion, where @rssanders, @jgirlatlaw, @justjane, @eddiesrp talk about their experience with scar tissue after surgery: http://mayocl.in/2kpKLyV. Mike, I am sorry you have began experiencing pain in an area you probably thought you were all clear on. I hope docs can narrow things down for you and do something that will give you relief from that pain. Laura Consolo of Melrose, Mass., had her gallbladder removed 12 years ago and has experienced some digestive changes. Scar tissue surrounding organs: http://mayocl.in/2o7g2LT. If you have not had your gallbladder removed or don’t have gallbladder disease, but are experiencing right side abdominal pain, this has many possible causes, as you can see, and the list here is not complete. They have all mentioned having gall bladder surgery. I have some abdominal scars from my organ transplants 7+ years ago. I’m also tagging @rdrdhap @giza @avocado1 @ginpene05 @kag13 @nonnie1@loriel59, with the hope that they, and other members on this discussion, will return with more insight for you. Sorry for the disconnected response. How do you manage the pain-episodes? Have you already talked to you doctor about this pain, Mike? My husband recently had gall bladder surgery. Here you will find out why that might be happening and what you can do about it. My upper right quadrant is uncomfortable feeling, hurts at times and also feels like a pinching through to the back. Could it be that the internal staples are shifting after all these years? I had several gallstones, 2 of them were totally blocking the duct, and my gallbladder was severely infected and ready to rupture. Adhesions cause pain by pulling nerves, either within an organ tied down by an adhesion or within the adhesion itself. I'm tagging @gman007 @rosemarya @hopeful33250 @bonitav @jimhd...", "@dodgerblu818311, I want to welcome you to Connect. Bowel obstructions caused by adhesions following abdominal surgery: http://mayocl.in/2nhtuhj I did feel something that felt like that pain after having the tail section of my pancreas and my spleen removed. Gallbladder removal surgery is called cholecystectomy. I believe anything is possible until proven otherwise, but if you are having pain from the staples used 40 years ago, I want my next vehicle built out of that material. There are many complications that can occur after gallbladder removal surgery. If this clip is dislocated even slightly, bile may leak in the abdominal area, leading to abdominal and lower back pain after the surgery. The placement is in the same area as my gallbladder was. There can be so many sources of post-surgical pain, that it is impossible to say I had THIS pain, but can only truly say I felt a pain that was different than what I have felt prior to this time. The gallbladder is not a vital organ, but that does not mean having it removed is going to be a picnic. I am 46 and I had gall bladder surgery 3 years ago April. I had my gall bladder out 40 years ago, the old major abdominal surgery way, with an 8 inch scar and a 1 week hospital stay. Sometimes this fluid can be drained off. The hospitalist her … Even if several shows have cast him that way, Ask Amy: Wanting to weigh in about sister’s obesity. Cut in the Abdomen. Jan. 26 snowstorm map: How much did it snow near you? Liked by Rosemary, Volunteer Mentor, Kanaaz Pereira, Connect Moderator, @gman007, Thank you for mentioning “phantom pain”. Liked by Kanaaz Pereira, Connect Moderator. My next step, it seems, is to see a surgeon much more familiar with this problem. A stone that remains in a bile duct after gallbladder removal surgery can cause severe pain, or jaundice, which is the yellowing of the skin. And thank you for the encouragement that you have offered. I have yet to meet a doctor who says, ‘Why did you bother me with this.’ Instead they will say, ‘You did the right thing to get it checked.’ Even when there is a simple explanation for it! Some are immediate and some can happen years after surgery. The most likely reason is that … About a week ago I started having sensations that I did before my surgery. They sent her home and ordered a MRCP on Monday. They attempted an ultrasound but could not get a good picture. By medical research, postcholecystectomy syndrome strikes 10-15 percent of people without the gallbladder. She said our bodies know when an internal organ is missing just as if it were part of a limb. But bile fluid can occasionally leak out into the tummy (abdomen) after the gallbladder is removed. But that makes sense for a few weeks; it doesn’t account for the pain that starts months or years post-cholecystectomy. Take Care and God Bless. After 40 years, that must be unsettling to you in addition to the pain. It to is about 10inches long. I hope you get an answer about your pain. Other common causes of right upper abdominal pain include muscle strain, trapped wind, peptic ulcer, pleurisy … Christine is a 39 year old mother of four who came to my clinic seeking help for her fatty liver. Unfortunately, you have developed a fairly common problem after gallbladder removal - that of recurrent right-sided abdominal pain. I have had no problems for 40 years,but now, right along the scar line, I get occasional sharp pains, almost stabbing. I had my gallbladder removed the next day (yesterday) by laparoscopic surgery. It was laparoscopic, and only 2 months ago. I to have had and still have occasionally sharp pains at my old sternal incision. I had an MRI of my back due to a car accident and this is what they put on report. More than 700,000 cholecystectomies are performed annually in the US. 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Since that time, I have had to deal with many digestive problems that I never thought would be issues. It moves from front to back. Her gallbladder was removed 5 years ago. Hi Mike, welcome to Connect. How many assistants does Matt Nagy need to hire? There are many theories to explain why this occurs. We learn as we age to listen to our bodies. Pain from Scar Tissue. I had my gall bladder surgery in 2013 a few days after I had my daughter via C-section. It feels so wierd am doing something one minute then the next am literally screaming from the pain. I had my gallbladder removed on 2002. My doctor thinks I have something wrong with my "sphincter of Oddi." Whether a laparoscopic cholecystectomy or open surgery was employed in taking out the gallbladder, scar tissue pain is inevitable during recovery and the healing process varies from person to person. Liked by Kanaaz Pereira, Connect Moderator, Lupe, @dodgerblu818311, I want to welcome you to Connect. I wish you well. If symptoms don’t go away quickly might be time to see the doc! These hurt just as much as the stones in the gallbladder itself. It hurts that bad. I had my gallbladder removed seven years ago. Acute pancreatitis, which rarely develops after gallbladder removal, can cause dull pain in the upper middle or left abdomen, nausea, vomiting and fever. Constant pain now where gallbladder was and further down right hand side of body, front and back. Had blood tests - all ok. My doctor (GP) said something about scar tissue being the culprit, but I guess I’m fixated on these staples. I also have IBS for many years. Constant pain now where gallbladder was and further down right hand side of body, front and back. What treatments are available to help relieve the pain? Rosemary, Liked by Colleen Young, Connect Director, Lupe. I’m tagging @gman007 @rosemarya @hopeful33250 @bonitav @jimhd on this conversation. I had my gallbladder removed due to sludge over 5 years ago. … I did feel something that felt like that pain after having the tail section of my pancreas and my spleen removed. Hello Mike, I too resently have had pain where my gall bladder scars are at. 1. Reasons for Pain After Gallbladder Removal. Some people have no symptoms. May be a good idea to see a doc who did not perform your surgery and let us know what the young whippersnapper has to say. Pulling on the scar tissue in the local area can cause pain. I’ve not had any discomfort since. It feels like it is right under the skin line. On the surface I have no feeling for about 6 inches wide and 8 inches long however I do get the stabbing sharp pain. Typically, these symptoms include pain or the urgent need to run to the bathroom after eating. @mikehow And when something is just not right, we need to get it checked out. 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